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BENZO CULT HISTORY: RATS JUMP SHIP

November 15, 2012

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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2011, 09:51:40 PM »

I joined early on – June 12 a year ago – kind of interesting as I was banned that first night without saying a word on the forum – well I needed support – needed a place — I posted often on topix thread on ambien as aras but that wasn’t enough – I can give you the link but it is a long thread with over 8000 posts now.  I had reinstated back even when I was here right before I left and was having a hell of a time getting off and knew staying off would be hard.  I reinstated because it was all I had to relieve the pain – I am off now 13 months and based on my experience I ain’t going back on.  I hit tolerance fast and withdrawal was worse than last time. Enough of that for now. Well I got unbanned by donna, and in time offered to help with taper plans in the background.  They needed help.  The two moderators in charge of them needed help imo on some of the mathematics behind it and especially in dealing with limited pills.  I was added to the welcome team and asked to moderate a z drug board then and as the then current moderators were “fired” I was moved up to a moderator and given assignments.   I don’t know exactly when – I could look if you want – I still have emails and IMs with donna but not any pms.  I used the name Sara (first Pokey) as I have used that name online for years.  By the end of September it was clear to me I was leaving.  Donna seems to like to fire moderators and I was expecting it too but it turned out I had to leave instead.  I didn’t leave until October 19th.  I left my board as well as I could with ideas for suggested plans for the new members in our taper discussion area.  The day the Pay Pal button appeared I knew it was finally time.  I had already seen too many edited posts of mine (and others) without bothering to tell me they were changed.  I would think a moderator who writes a policy statement about a board would be offered that respect when the policy statement was changed but I wasn’t.  I started watching for edits on my posts then.  I give donna the right as board owner to control what is and isn’t posted on her board but when I reach the point I can no longer tolerate the owner’s actions then I choose to leave and did.  I have not gone back even to visit leaving my IP number there.  I did not go back to pick up PMs left for me after I left.  All the original moderators and welcome team are gone now I think save L’andy and Donna.  Most have been gone a long time.  TC I assume walked over there and became a mod there but I was gone.   I have no idea who Bittersweet is and the question in my mind is it one of the 3 of Mike, Donna, L’andy.  I am in contact with another former moderator there – Gail – she is the one Mike is out to destroy and a victim of his.  I had her email but didn’t contact her until I found out she was gone and banned – found that out from the sitejabber thread a few months ago and contacted her then.  Kunzang had been a moderator too but I understand (only hearsay) she couldn’t handle that mike was allowed to join BE and left.  What else?

Oh Eljay I figured you might end up with temp access here – yes my theory is he “owns” the forum – it is still in Donna’s name but he is operating it – and he controls donna and l’andy – yeah I am probably paranoid about it – seeing too much but donna was having problems with funding for the forum and being attacked by mike on his blog and now all of that is gone

Eljay – the little scared PAWS cat is now a giant sassy kitty who demands our attention.

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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2011, 12:31:03 AM »

Wow, this is all so incredible! I have a couple of questions: Is Gail you are referring to, HAJ? I know that HAJ’s real name was Gail and she was extremely attacked by Mike, hawkeye, and the gang back them. Also, was Heather an original member there? Is she still there?Aw, I’m so happy to hear about your rescue kitty! My Annie is still doing well aside from mild kidney disease and bit of dementia. She is 17 and a half!
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2011, 12:50:45 AM »

Colin,I am not sure what you wish to know about donna and l’andy – I had talked to donna on the phone a few times so she knows my real name etc. as I do hers.  She also knows my name here and she had 2 names here I believe – dukesmommy or something like that is one of them.  L’andy I never talked to and never really communicated a lot with.  Donna struggled early on with the forum as far as feeling hopeless with it.  She wanted to shut it down quite a few times and needed lots of reassurance about it – she was so certain Mike would bring it down.  She was paranoid about new members and them being mike.  She watched his and a few other’s posts at BW.  I was never active at BW – I have 2 posts so I never even had access to blogs.  She watched the money she put into the forum get larger and larger – she was paying for advertising online – something I never understood but then I don’t own any forums.  She kept saying she could cover the costs but they kept growing and growing.  I know her pregnant daughter was living with them – perhaps other grown family too.  All of a sudden she put on the paypal button.  I guess she discussed it with L’andy but not with the moderators.  At the same time she agreed to buy me a piece of software I had wanted (I would never have allowed her to do it anyhow – I can buy what I want but of course she had ability in her household to get the “student” version which is full version at a cheaper price than I could even with my educational connections.)  What I saw was her asking for donations at the same time agreeing to buy me something and no way I was willing to accept that.

She also said she didn’t just want money for the future expenses of the forum but wanted to be paid back for what she had willingly donated to start it up and expenses to that point – over $1000 I think she said (I have her email with it).

By then I was already trying to decide when to leave.  I knew staying was killing me and I was spending less and less time there.

I had found BE listed at benzo wise site – there is a post by Bliss on BE now – not sure it is really hers (baylissa’s) or made from other things she has posted online.  I suspect there are other things “stolen” from other sites at BE now.  Again I haven’t looked there for quite a while and since Oct I haven’t logged in.  I do know that things of mine that should have been kept hidden from public are available in google caches.  

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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2011, 01:06:50 AM »

Wow, this is all so incredible! I have a couple of questions: Is Gail you are referring to, HAJ? I know that HAJ’s real name was Gail and she was extremely attacked by Mike, hawkeye, and the gang back them. Also, was Heather an original member there? Is she still there?Aw, I’m so happy to hear about your rescue kitty! My Annie is still doing well aside from mild kidney disease and bit of dementia. She is 17 and a half!

yes, Gail is HAJ – I don’t know her name here maybe HAJ too – she feels mike watches her constantly at places like this – I have seen his blogs – I have seen the subjects of the hushmail emails from him she never opens – I have worked at keeping her going this past few months as she has been super down with all this stuff from him – here is mild one from earlier this month –

Subject: never stopping – ever – good luck taking down 47 sites

Heather at BE?  no – she was treated like shit by donna – I can elaborate more if you like and perhaps I was behind some of it but sure not all of it – Heather was one of the tapering moderators  when I joined BE – she was good at many of the details I didn’t really know how to answer but had no idea about a lot of the math – Dan her husband was the “math” person of the pair and he was a tapering coach then got canned by donna – neither knew the math I did and probably donna saw an opportunity to get rid of them – but heather / dan had  PMs cut off without notice (donna said a technical glitch – sure it was – I had been told it wasn’t) cause donna was paranoid that advice was being given via email (which it was) – I saw so much and so much I was willing to let slide but they all added to the total pile of reasons why I left

our orange kitty is still around and Spot loves her and respects her – this was them this winter and the heat pump was running full blast – hmm doesn’t show up in preview – oh well – I will keep the code here

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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2011, 01:14:44 AM »

a question – Gail knows this thread is open – I sent her my first post – she knows I am replying to your posts (and knows Pamster, Colin and Eljay have read it) – at this stage I told her that I feel I can not share much more about the thread without the permission of you / BBOam I free to share this?  just because you say yes doesn’t mean I will
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